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This is honestly not the best of squares work. Its more apart of the lower game forms of square evolution. The entire game starts out with a good fmv sequence but from there on your go down hill and start to wonder why you didnt stab yourself in the throat with a spoon after the first 2 hours of playing this game. However some of the features are nice like the gunblade and exploding monsters. But thats about it. The whole battle system is just a pain in the ass. Making you worry about your magic stock and commands that you have to preset in battle. The one advantage you have going in to the fray is this will be the fastest time the atb counter will fill. Not like in ff9 where its horribly horribly slow. Magic is just one more thing you have to worry about. Sadly the materia is gone and its most likely never coming back. Instead you need to either draw magic from enemies or from a draw point. In which youll spennd about 20 min in a battle just to stock up on the firaga spell. To me that not what i call fun. The whole cast of characters is pretty bad to ranging from the clod hearted Squall to the plain out pussy named Cid. Now in ff7 he was that smoking bad mouthed guy who beats his wife all the time. Evolving ... errr i mean deevolving in ff8 hes a pussy thats the only way you can sum him up in ff8. The summon system plain out makes the game way to easy by just using the gf's as a sheild so your characters wont die. And on the other note is leveling up. Jesus Christ what the hell were they thinking. instead of completely depending on your little stat boost on a level up. The xp totla to level up in ff8 is 1000 xp and your stats will hardly go up. Instead your need to junction magic to your stats. But its not that easy. First you need to junction gf's. Then after that they need to learn abilities so you can junction more magic. The music i found much less enjoyable to the other ff's. I think if the got Micael Jackson to constantly reapeat the word devilish to a techno beat the music would have been ten times better. (exept for the final battles' music). The graphics are overly bland making all the characters real pointy. For me i only played the game two times and once is enough for me. for me to say this is a good final fantasy would cause blood to spay out of my eyes. For the final fantasy faithful this was a major disapointment. And overall i really am ashamed of buying this game. (wait it got it for free. so i guess im ashamed for actuallt taking the game.)

 

Control:10

Grapics:-5

Sound:2

Replay:-6

Fun Factor:-8

The final say:-7

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First of all, fuck you Seph, you know it was a better game then that, otherwise you wouldn't have spent so much time playing it. I like 8 more then 9 in everyway, 'sept for in game graphics and KUJA. That said, I will hit Seph for this. On with MY review.

 

How can I say this... Hmm. I know I've brought it up before, but VIII has somewhat of a special place in my heart, as far as Video Gaming and the Final Fantasy franchise go. Viii was my first. Final Fantasy, that is. It was one of the first playstation games I bought (the very first being MegaMan X4). I stand by my purchese to this day, and am quite proud to say I managed to get a new copy of the original release, as opposed to the greatest hits version. Something about the greatest hits releases scream "LATECOMER". Unfortunatly, I was not able to get a first release of VII, but I do have IX and X's original release. Me = happy.

 

Into the meat of the review, we shall go.

 

I'm not sure what Seph was refering to, when he made the "spoon out your throat" comment. I thoughly enjoyed the game up until the space station part. I'll get to that in a bit.

 

Graphically, FF8 excels. Well, not really. Okay, honestly, FF8 has characters whose ingame sprits are the jaggyest things I've even seen. Jesus Christ, they look like total ass. Monsters, summons, and static backgrounds, however, are very well done. One of the best things about VIII graphically, I must say, is that there is just about *no* pallete swaped enemies. While I'm not saying there are none, it's great to play through VIII after just going through, oh I don't know, something like X where every monster after the first four are recolors. Urgg, I'm bitter.

One thing you can never, ever, *ever* rail VIII for is it's FMVs. Oh my God, they are some of the best looking cutscenes I've ever layed eye's on. Of particular note is the opening cutscene, the infamous Gunblade fight between Squall and Seifer. Set to "Libiri Fatali", how could you not like that whole intro. I must say, it kicks the crap out of VII's, or an previous final fantasy. I mean, sure VI's was cool, with the MagiTechs and all, but fuck that, theys using Gunblades of here. Admitably, there are some compression issues with the FMVs in ester, but that was because of low space, so natch.

 

Just to touch on control, how can you fuck up control in an RPG? Well, I guess you can a bit. Boosing can get annoying, I suppose, but VIII makes up for it by letting you use the fucking joystick to move in this one. VII just pisses me off, I hate using the D-pad. I know the analog controller wasn't out when VII was released, but it was when the greastest hits when out. What's the point of a rerelease if you don't fix anything?

 

The battle system is sound. No problems there. I mean, it's a time tested system, and it works well with VIII. 'Ol ATB is back once again. On the plus side, it's one of the fastest ATB's out there, right up with VII's. To bad fucking IX didn't keep with the program. But, often people mash the battle system with VIII's greatest advantage and subsequently it's greatest flaw; The Junction System. If you know it well, are experianced with it's mechcanics and can use it to it's fukllest, you will breeze through VIII. Whether or not this is a good thing is up to you, but there are challeges for those who think the game too simple. However, for those who cannot grasp the inner working of the Junction System, well... They're fucked. Plain and simple. Unless your a gamer god, you can't ignor the Junction system. It's required reading. Knowing the junction system and using it right is a prerequisite to beating the game. However, getting the magic to juction *is* tedious. Really, it is one of the less fun parts of the game. But eh, if you don't like it, don't do it, and then watch as the monsters fuck the shit out of your party.

 

On Guardian Forces; I love these guys, and they do make the game much easier. Infact, there would be no game without GFs, simply because they make it possible to juction magic. Seph says it make s the game too easy, because you can hiod behind the GFs. Well, only if you've pimped them out. Unless you learn the right abilities your party = fucked. Seph seems to forget quite frequently that not everyone has an infinite amount of time to master the game. And I'm quite sure that 'ol Seph wouldn't be all that up in arms about difficulty if not for the walkthroughs easily found at Gamefaqs. Also, didn't you get the PC version, and then the Counsil verison Seph? Then you played through the PSX version twice? No replay value indeed.

Side note: you can name GF's. That is pimp.

 

On the Story; Actually, the story is pretty basic as far as FFs go. This is probaly for the best. Lower downs in the gaming world had trouble following VII's story (I don't really know why, but...), so VIII had a basic premise: Girl like boy. Boy introvert, then he likes girl. Girl gets in to trouble. Boy saves girl. Boy and Girl (and company) Save world. Boy gets Girl, lives happily ever after. While the inner workings of the story are much more complexe, that sums it up. Unlike VII's which is like: Boy hates this guy. This guy is pimp (is he really a bad guy?. Yes, really a bad guy. Whatys this shit? I don't even know what this is suppose to be? Girl dies. Okay, now what? Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay, go look for the badguy somemore. Other Girl likes guy. Or does she? I guess not. Maybe, I guess. Anyway, badguy not the same bad guy they were chasing, or he is. Or he isn't. Anyway, the Good guy is kinda out of the picture. Or not. Hmm. Okay skip ahead. Good guy beats bad guy... finally. Or not, son of a bitch! Okay *now* he does. Damn. The planet is saved. Or is it, I'm not sure. It doesn't really say. Fuck. Fucking game. I quit.

So yeah, you see what I mean.

 

Eh, leveling up is kinda retarded, and something you want to *really* avoid, unless you like teh rape. You see, monsters, and bosses level up as you do. So to get around it, you just up you juctions for stat boosts insted of leveling. This is a shocker for old school RPG gamers, because leveling (in most cases) was the only reason they won. Sure, it took 40 hours of random wandering to get into battles but it was worth it, right? Eh not in 8. If you play normal, the time spent drawing magic is not nearly that you'd spend trying to level up in other games. On the 1000 XP thing, yeah, it is kinda dumb, but it just makes the game harder. Bare in mind, you don't really want to level up. THat's bad, almost. So when you get into situations where ENC NONE don't work and you have to fight tough enemys... well, lets just say in one dungeon I leveled up THIRTY TIMES!!! HOLY CRAP!!! Yeah, I was pissed. But then I died because all the monsters got stronger and raped the shit out of me. Hmm.

 

On magic, the spells look allot better then in VII, but that's not surprising. One of the few praises I have for IX is *it's* magic, which looks really cool, and then X's looks even better. I suppose it should be like that, huh? But then again, I didn't see apoccolips in IX or X :P

 

The music, unlike Seph's testomonial, is actually very good. While it does seem like it's missing the memorable themes from VII, like jenova and still more fighting, VIII has better music overall, I'd say. I rate One Winged Angel about the same as Libiri Fatali. And honestly, aside from

One Winged Angel, VIII did have better end music. The legendary beast, Maybe I'm a Lion, and The Extreme all kick the "jenova absolute" sqaure in the nuts. Ug, I hate jenova absolute. Also, The extreme is a far removed remix of the old battle music from Final Fantasies past. It's a nice throw back, if you can catch it. Other memorable songs are "the man with a machine gun" "landing", and "force your way". Not to mention "eyes on you", which many seem to have an effinity for, but I don't really care to much for it.

 

The ending. Oh my. It is really one of the best in the recent final fantasy history. Belay that. It *is* the best. You know how much I hated VII's, with the most insiperd music I"ve ever heard. You ought to know how much I hate IX's, for reasons which will be covered in that review. And I hate Hate HATE the ending to X. Not just the last FMV. THat was great, if not the second most depressing thing I've even seen in a Final Fantasy. No, X had that thing where fucking yuna is like "I'm not sad and shit" and is talkin gto the big crowd of people. ERRRGGH. I say, now and forever, no more talking in FMV. Let the music and the pictures tell the story. It worked great in VIII and IX. VIII just tells a great story. I'm refering to the FMV now, not the little semimind fuck before it. I'm talking when Squall is wandering the endless desert, and when he like falls to his knees and looks like he's just gonna die. That was beutiful . When him and Rinoa are sercing for each other, but can't seem to find what they want, that's deep. When we see everything going good, everything getting back to happy. It's just rewarding. Then you get the little scene during the credits at some party with a hand held video camera. It's all good. Then, if you wait alllll past the credits, you see Squall and Rinosa. And you know everything is good. It makes you all warm and fuzzy inside. Best FF ewnding ever. Well, in the recent games. No comment on 1 - 6.

 

So, That's it. I may add on when I find the need, but I'm a bit winded now.

 

Control:9

Grapics:3

Sound:6

Replay:8

Fun Factor:6

The final say:32

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Well, Final Fantasy 8 is not a game I really have any affinity for, so I figure you all can now hear my reasons.

 

First off, Guardian Forces. Neat idea; it combines summons with magic and those side effects that you got when you put materia on a character. But it wasn't carried out so well. Why? Because you don't need anything else You fight things with the GF. It levels up. You don't need to hit anything, ever. Ever. Why? The GF can do it for you. And better. It takes damage for you (and it has more HP than you do), it does more damage than you do (especially if scrounging up the parts to upgrade your damn sword isn't high on your list of priorities). So the game is, like, inanely easy if you just spend a modicum of time putting together a solid GF.

 

Yeah, naming it was pimp. I can remember going out into battle with "The Coz" at my side, feeling on top of the world. We were an unstoppable team.

 

Then I realized that The Coz was the unstoppable part, and I was the team part. So he didn't really need me, except to press the button that makes him come down from his cloud or whatever the hell he lives on in between his interference in battles between the mortal forces of good and evil. I needed him, though, like some sort of hallucinogenic drug that makes me see some big blue thing descending from on high to bail my sorry but and nifty weapon out of yet another scrape. It's like the story is about the characters, but the battles are about your magical guardians from beyond the sky fighting monsters and not you. Like some martial arts movie that skips around in between random battles and some pointless storyline because the actual fighting guy wasn't that great an actor so they just put his fight scenes on top of another guy's story. Really.

 

The card game, Mr. Glitch. The card game. Justify that, if you will. :P

 

The FMVs were good, but, you know, they're FMVs. So, it's like random filler space to make the game look better than it actually does. They could do the same thing with sprites to avoid the arduous load times and make it look like the scene was taking place in the world you knew and interacted with instead of some random alternate dimension with graphics far superior to your own.

 

Of course, they had to put in good graphics somewhere. I mean, FF7's rotating polygon hands were better than this horsecrap.

 

Music was good. Not One-Winged Angel or the masterful Overworld theme from FF7, but not bad. Some of it was annoying, but every game has music like that.

 

The happy ending where half the main characters weren't randomly dead, that was a good bit. Nice change from all the love stories that turn out sourly. Yeah, you know, anime. :P

 

Gunblades are cool. Exploding monsters are cool. Squall is not cool. He gets the girl and all, but he's not one of the people that I'd necessarily want to have their genes carried over into the next generation.

 

Cid is equally uncool. He's a Final Fantasy standard... he's been in every FF since I can remember, though he might not actually be in the first one. It's been years since I beat that game, and I've not made it too far back through on my emulator as of yet. But in FF8 was, like, his worst incarnation ever. In 5, he was an eccentric old man, a builder of mechanical wonders that got depressed when they were used for evil purposes. In 7, he was a foulmouthed, grizzled pilot with busted dreams of flying amongst the stars thanks to the bastards-at-large in charge of the evil giant corporation that stood in for the standard evil giant empire in that particular game.

 

In FF8, he was... well, as Seph put it, a pussy. There we go, I said it. Pussy.

 

Let's see, I've been throught graphics, music, story, characters... gameplay is, well, RPG gameplay. You run around, do stuff, fight things. Nothing new, no problems, and so on. Standard.

 

Story? Well, it had a story (or two, like I said earlier), and there was a happy ending to said story. Kudos for that.

 

Replay value? I'm not going through THAT again!

 

My final say:

 

Graphics: 3

Gameplay: 7

Music: 8

Characters: 3

Story: 10

Replay Value: 3

Arduous Tasks Pertaining to Doing Anything, such as Upgrading your Gunblade, Leveling Up, and Making Magic Available: -3

 

Final Score: 31

 

Factoring in my personal bias against the game (which is worth -97 points), it gets a total score of -68.

 

Worst Final Fantasy Ever. Glitch is entitled to his opinion, and he's also entitled to mine. >:D

 

Have a nice day!

The Insane Space Hunter

 

Edit: Forgot to disable the stupid emoticons so that >:D looks right, instead of being ><img src=http://www.infiniteunreality.com/~asylum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grin.gif>. Whoopsie.

 

 

 

Edited By Insane Space Hunter on 1056132336

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Aww, what you have against Squally? I think it's nice that the little orphen boy gets a girl, and loosens up. Although I's prefere if he'd stay a total aloof guy, if he gets nice well, then the plot has progressed, I suppose. I also think it's cool that Squall, the good guy of the game, is decked out in black, while Seifer, the bad rival guy, is in white. Just seems a neat contrast. And you know what? I think that Squall is my second favorite main Char... Terra being first. She was just cool. Least favorite.. Hmm... Butz, from FF5. What a fag.

 

Opps, hope I didn't ofend anyone >_>

 

So yeah. Don't give into the anti-hype! VIII isn't as bad as people make it out to be!

 

Chrono Cross on the other hand...

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Yeah so mabey i was a bit hard on ff8 it on the past but still it had alot more bad things to it. Yes the fmvs were the best to that point and some of the music was good. But still that fucking card game Triple Triad was annoying.

 

Oh yeah ill call you 2maro Damnglitch k

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Yeah, um... I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there... yeah...

 

Aww, what you have against Squally? I think it's nice that the little orphen boy gets a girl, and loosens up. Although I's prefere if he'd stay a total aloof guy, if he gets nice well, then the plot has progressed, I suppose.

 

Well, regardless of what Squall did with his life, he was fuckin' boring, man. His only personality traits are told, and he never really shows any of them. Most of his personality is just assumed by his orphan background. Also, to clear up something really quick, plot progression never counts. The plot could move along nicely if the programmer simply moved X, Y and Z coordinates around on a computer screen for hours and hours on end... oh, wait... nevermind.

 

...I think that Squall is my second favorite main Char... Terra being first. She was just cool. Least favorite.. Hmm... Butz, from FF5. What a fag.

 

Terra really wasn't the "main Char" in FF6... she and Celes kind of shared that title. However, since Terra is the first character introduced in the game, we tend to consider her the "main Char", but we're wrong. She's only half of the "main Char". Also, Butz' only real fault was his name. He's twice the character Squall is, easily. Sure, he's the typical "roaming adventurer turned hero by way of fate" character that's almost mandatory in any RPG, but at least he has character. Squall is nigh devoid of any character whatsoever.

 

Opps, hope I didn't ofend anyone >_>

 

Your silly homophobic comment about Butz could only offend a foolhardy, empty-headed, insult-slinging simpleton (i.e. SuperSephiroth). I try to avoid being at least three of those things. Guess which three and you get a cookie. :P

 

So yeah. Don't give into the anti-hype! VIII isn't as bad as people make it out to be!

 

Yeah. In fact, it's worse.

 

Chrono Cross on the other hand...

 

...is at least just as bad as FF8.

 

Well, there you have it. My piece, in response to DG's last message. Thanks for listening, and sayonora!

 

P.S. lol u fag ur opinien r retarted!!1!!11 omfg wtf

 

 

 

Edited By Badger-san on 1056416526

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Also, to clear up something really quick, plot progression never counts.

 

What the fuck does that mean? When you get about 30 hours of story, the characters in the game better fucking evolve. If they don't it sucks.

 

Also, Butz' only real fault was his name. He's twice the character Squall is, easily. Sure, he's the typical "roaming adventurer turned hero by way of fate" character that's almost mandatory in any RPG, but at least he has character. Squall is nigh devoid of any character whatsoever.

 

Butz has no character and no defining features. Fuck Butz. Hehe. Side note, for the re release on the PSX, Butz was changed to "Bartz", which is still retarded but slightly less gay.

 

I think that Squall is the most soulful and REALISTIC character ever to grace the Final Fantasy universe. I mean really, who has more emotions or feelings? That's right, no one. He actually does something based on what he thinks will benefit himself, and his organization, not the greater good of the world. Even in the end, he kills ultimicia to protect Rinoa, not the planet. Barring Tidus from FFX, because that has voices, Squall gets how he feels, his inner conflicts, better then anyone.

 

Your silly homophobic comment about Butz could only offend a foolhardy, empty-headed, insult-slinging simpleton (i.e. SuperSephiroth). I try to avoid being at least three of those things. Guess which three and you get a cookie.

 

Where do you get off taking a pot-shot at Seph? He and I are pals, and as such are entitled to make fun of each other here and there. I'm sorry, Badger, but you're out of line. I would advise you not to do that again in the future.

 

 

So yeah. Don't give into the anti-hype! VIII isn't as bad as people make it out to be!

And then...

Yeah. In fact, it's worse

 

Real nice. Great barb. Got another zinger up your sleeve? Goddamn, way to bring class to the argument. Yeah, that's coming from *me*. I hope you appreciate what that means.

 

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Haha Bager. me single minded never. Every game i play i try to like it as much as i can or was your remake about jealousy. Becuase i have almost 50 posts in a few weeks and your stuck with 30. Well the name calling is a pointless thing. So honestly i wont go on about how damnglitch says butz is a fag and he probally your favorite charater cause he cant get laid anytime soon and squall was gettin rhiona good after the game so hats off to you you desperate lonely boy.

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Well put, Seph... I guess. It's only fair Seph gets his come back in, but do to the potential for future flaming, the topic is closed.

 

Now, to abuse my powers:

 

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Final Fantasy VIII Rules!
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